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Date: May 21, 2014
Time: Regular Meeting, 7:30 pm
Location: Webster Groves City Hall, 4 E. Lockwood
Norma Bolin (A)
Council Member (E)
Building Commissioner (E)
1. Approval of
Meeting Minutes ? April 2, 2014 & April 16, 2014:
After review of the April 2nd minutes,
Frank Janoski moved that the minutes be approved and Bill Stancil seconded.
The April 2nd meeting minutes were approved. After review of the
April 16th minutes, Frank Janoski moved that the minutes be approved
with the addition of the word ?substantially? prior to the word ?revised? in
the discussion of the HPC ordinance in item 2 of Other Business, and Bridget
Keitel seconded. The April 16th meeting minutes were approved as
Florence Ave. - Demolition:
Mark Mills and Gary Roth of Roth Mark,
Inc. were in attendance to discuss their plans for the house. Pictures of the
house were distributed and they indicated that the house was in poor condition
due to water damage and lack of maintenance. The previous owner was in the
house for 50 years. The realtor, Diane Penny, attempted to sell the house to a
rehabber but there were no acceptable offers. Roth Mark specializes in quality
in-fill housing ranging in price from $650 K to $1.25 million. They have built
in University City, Kirkwood, Rockhill and Clayton. They plan to build a 4
bedroom 3.5 bath Craftsman style house to sell for approximately $800,000.
HPC suggested that a front-facing garage would not be desirable and that a
detached garage would be appropriate. They indicated that a detached garage
was not feasible as a large portion of their business are relocation clients.
Frank Janoski questioned as to whether the ARB will look at the architectural
style of the house. Mike Harney indicated that the ARB would ensure that the
house would conform with the surrounding structures.
representatives of Roth Mark, Inc. left the meeting, Mike Harney indicated that
Linda Boone, whose grandfather (Toft) built 6 houses in Webster, is interested
in preserving the house at 478 Florence. A discussion was held as to how the
city can encourage restoration of older homes rather than demolition.
3. 705 Greeley
Ave. - What We Learned:
The discussion about what can be done
to encourage the restoration of older homes ties into the demolition of 705
Greeley. Revision of the HP ordinance is the most reliable method to ensure
that the preservation of structures is given preferential treatment. There are
already some benefits to restoration, including tax credits. Depending upon
the use of the structure both Federal and Missouri tax credits are available to
the owner of a qualifying house. Federal tax credits require the structure to
be income producing and Missouri credits are an investment credit. To receive
a credit a structure must be qualified. All Webster Groves local Historic
Districts are on the National Register.
examination of methods used to encourage historic presevation used by other
cities could be used to revise the ordinance. Frank Janoski questioned as to
whether something similar to subdivision indentures could be used by the city.
The ordinance must be balanced with property rights. Todd Meyer indicated that
the greatest problem is houses that never go on the market and are targeted by
developers and real estate agents as tear-downs. These random tear-downs are
the thing that the HPC needs to be able to hinder. The citizens of Webster
Groves and Real Estate agents working in the area need to be educated. Home
maintenance is the key to keeping the value of historic structures high. The
HPC is interested in finding a local charitable organization that could help
those in need with the maintenance of their homes to prevent structures that
are in less than desirable condition. An additional layer of complexity and
delay is desired within the historic preservation ordinance for those
considering tearing down a structure. The HPC knows that not all structures
can be saved, but wants to be able to do everything in its power to prevent
losing more houses like 705 Greeley. Although the developer allowed the house
to be shown, they did not accept any of the offers that were submitted. City
Staff will make preliminary changes to the ordinance. Mike Harney asked that
concerns with specific issues be emailed to him.
suggested that Tuxedo Park be designated a local historic district, as due to
the demolition of 705 Greeley many residents are interested in doing something
to preserve the neighborhood. It was suggested that volunteers be solicited to
aid in the production of the nomination. A determination of the boundaries of
the district needs to be made. Elyse McBride indicated that she would begin
work on developing the boundaries.
Staff will review the HPC Ordinance and forward the proposed changes to the HPC
for possible revision of the ordinance.
Ryan Gregg reported that Webster
University students will be compiling a list of century homes and checking it
against the inventory sheets from the county. This list will help identify
houses that are ?At Risk.? Other projects will follow.
HPC is not allowed to send emails to discuss HPC business. When information is
needed prior to the next scheduled meeting, individual members
should send an email to Mike Harney. He will forward any email that is for
information only. A 24 hour notice is required for any exchange between
members and if that requirement cannot be met then no email can be sent to
1. New HPC
New HPC member, Jennifer Gropeter, was
introduced. She has a degree in Art History and English and enjoys doing
research. Her father was a builder and her grandfather was a partner of St.
Louis architect, Barnett.
Anne Tolan will be the Council Liaison
for the HPC next year.
3. Awards of
of Excellence will be presented in November. The HPC has been asked to provide
a judge. The judging will take place one evening in September.
The next HPC meeting
will be held June 18, 2014.
moved that the meeting be adjourned and Bridgit Keitel seconded. The meeting