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HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION

Date of Meeting:  May 20, 2009

Time of Meeting:  7:00 pm

Meeting Location:  Webster Groves City Hall, 4 E. Lockwood Ave.

 

MEMBERS:

NAME

PRESENT

ABSENT

Joe Grasso (Chair)

 

X

Dottie Alexander

X

 

Stephanie Dents

 

X

Greg Falk

X

 

Todd Meyer

X

 

Mimi Shipp (Vice Chair)

 

X

Eric Strutman

X

 

Heidi Styrk (Recording Secretary)

X

 

Kathy Weyrich

X

 

 

 

 

ARB Chairperson (E)

 

X

P & Z Chairperson (E)

 

X

 

Also Present:

Debi Salberg, Council Member (E)

X

 

Mike Harney, Building Commissioner (E)

X

 

                                                                               

 

PUBLIC HEARING:

REGULAR MEETING:

ITEMS DISCUSSED

1.        Approval of Minutes:  Motions were made to approve March and April minutes with changes (see motions for changes)

2.       224 Spring Ave:  Certificate of Appropriateness to demolish:

               Public Hearing at June 17th Meeting: 

·         The building is over 100 years old

·         Excerpt taken from Historic Walking Tour “ A New Century In Old Orchard”, p. 15:

“Samuel H. Jones House (1889, Victorian Vernacular farmhouse)

Justin Joy built this Queen Anne Vernacular house fishscale shingles and a sunburst in the gable for Samuel Jones in 1889.  Jones was a clerk with the H. T. Simon-Gregory Dry Goods Company.  This is the third of three house built by Edward and Justin Joy when they first established their new suburban development.  The three houses were originally right next door to each other on larger lots; later subdivision of these lots resulted in the houses now in between them.”

·         Owners were asked to request a building inspection from the city of Webster Groves and a Property maintenance Inspection

3.       131 S. Gore:  Certificate of Appropriateness to demolish garage

Public Hearing at June 17th Meeting

 

ITEMS DISCUSSED (continued)

4.       Draft Letter to Mayor and Council:  HPC drafted and finalized a letter to the mayor and council relating specific and future concerns regarding Certificates of Appropriateness for nominated properties.  Motion made to approve the draft.

5.       Heart of Webster Audio Walk: 

·         Web site:  Webster Walk #1 has been uploaded to web site

·         Marketing:  Suggestion was made that it would be helpful and more user friendly to have a  photo of home when listening

6.       Historic District Signs:

·         Sample sign was brought in for display and commission expressed concerns about how large the scale was.  New signs are approximately 3” higher (taller) than older signs.  Members expressed concern regarding the length for the longer street names.  M. Harney said that all the new street signs in Webster were gradually being remade at the larger height.  The HPC agreed to keep historic district brown signs consistent with the rest of the city signs.

·         Topic discussed about having “Historic District” as an addition to new signs

·         Discussion regarding use of the cupola within a circle design displayed on the historic walk brochures as a decorative icon bolted to pole under historic district signs.

--“ Webster Groves”

 in semicircle over the cupola

and “Historic District”

in semicircle under the

cupola design 

 

(design to show idea only)

 

·         May is Preservation Month:  Correlate Press Release of Historic Signs

 

7.       Legislation for historic preservation tax credit program HB191:

 HPC reviewed hard copy of email sent by Deb Sheals/ Missouri Preservation Public Policy Committee (contact info:  debsheals@aol.com)

 

ONGOING TOPICS:

1.       109 W. Cedar Ave.

2.       Historic Web Page update:  D. Alexander said that an individual had already photographed all homes in the Central Webster Walk that could be made available for web page.  The individual did it as an independent project for the purpose of having homes on visual record at the public library.

3.       List of potential designations:  A.  Landmarks  B. Districts

G. Falk said that he would begin process of substantiating qualities for historic designation for the Weyrich house

OTHER BUSINESS:

1.        Audio taping of Public Hearings:  Commission discussed the need to tape public hearings so that transcripts could be obtained if necessary and more details of hearing would be available.

2.       HPC would like to schedule a meeting with topics regarding legal questions.

NEXT MEETING:  June 17, 2009

 

MOTIONS

ITEM DISCUSSED:  #1

MOTION:    Motion was made to approve March 18, 2009 Minutes and April 15, 2009 with changes made to the following:

·         March 18, 2009Ongoing Topics #5.  Changes to read:  428 California Ave. Circa 1820 (changed from 1920), but not the oldest Webster home as rumored.  Oldest Home is 655 N. Forrest, circa 1810 (changed from 1910).

·         April 15, 2009Items Discussed #2.  Changes to read:  Eric Schmitt

 

NAME

MOTION TO

APPROVE

2nd

MOTION

YES

NO

ABSENT

ABSTAIN

Joe Grasso

 

 

 

 

X

 

Dottie Alexander

X

 

X

 

 

 

Stephanie Dents

 

 

 

 

X

 

Greg Falk

 

 

X

 

 

 

Todd Meyer

 

 

X

 

 

 

Mimi Shipp

 

 

 

 

X

 

Eric Strutman

 

X

X

 

 

 

Heidi Styrk

 

 

X

 

 

 

Kathy Weyhrich

 

 

X

 

 

 

MOTION APPROVED

 

YES

 

 

 

MOTIONS

ITEM DISCUSSED:  #4

MOTION:    Motion was made to approve the letter drafted and finalized by the HPC regarding the background history and issues surrounding the property at 109 Cedar to be sent to the Mayor and Council Members.

 

NAME

MOTION TO

APPROVE

2nd

MOTION

YES

NO

ABSENT

ABSTAIN

Joe Grasso

 

 

 

 

X

 

Dottie Alexander

 

 

X

 

 

 

Stephanie Dents

 

 

 

 

X

 

Greg Falk

 

 

X

 

 

 

Todd Meyer

X

 

X

 

 

 

Mimi Shipp

 

 

 

 

X

 

Eric Strutman

 

X

X

 

 

 

Heidi Styrk

 

 

X

 

 

 

Kathy Weyhrich

 

 

X

 

 

 

MOTION APPROVED

 

YES

 

 

 

 

 

MOTION:    Motion was made to adjourn meeting at 8:40 pm

 

NAME

MOTION TO

APPROVE

2nd

MOTION

YES

NO

ABSENT

ABSTAIN

Joe Grasso

 

 

 

 

X

 

Dottie Alexander

 

 

X

 

 

 

Stephanie Dents

 

 

 

 

X

 

Greg Falk

X

 

X

 

 

 

Todd Meyer

 

X

X

 

 

 

Mimi Shipp

 

 

 

 

X

 

Eric Strutman

 

 

X

 

 

 

Heidi Styrk

 

 

X

 

 

 

Kathy Weyhrich

 

 

X

 

 

 

MOTION APPROVED

 

YES